Neal describes his mother’s amazing experience with ncd
Neal Describes His Mother's Amazing Experience With ALZ
Interviewed by Forrist Lytehaause 9-4-06
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Forrist: Go ahead and go through the history and
With the headaches, she eventually found
something called Cafergot which was just massive
doses of caffeine. They seemed to work. They were
Neal: Somewhere around her late thirties, she
the only thing she could find into he standard
started to develop all the symptoms of what is now known to be fibromyalgia. I think the best way to describe the first ten to fifteen years of that was, that not a single doctor in the western world believed this condition existed. Nobody knew what it was. She basically had a headache, a migraine headache every day of her life, every hour of her life. It was pretty severe.
with extreme fatigue, massive weight gain and then probably one of the most constant themes was the water retention. There was basically zero acknowledgment from the medical community that this was treatable, diagnosable or even a problem.
medical community was offering that would offer
any relief to these constant migraines. As her own
years, and eventually giving up on the doctors as
doctor, at the time, told her, you basically choose
they tried every kind of thing you could imagine,
the way you're gonna die. With the migraines, you
more from the prospective Of trying to appease her.
die form Cafergot because that much caffeine is
I know that at one point she started taking beta
going to kill you. She would take these massive
doses of Cafergot and basically it would usually
dramatically worse immediately. She eventually
knock her headache out within a few hours and last
came to realize that food seemed to be playing a
probably a day and a half. So she would be taking
a Cafergot every 2-3 days. On her own research she
basically discovered that Melatonin was the safe
inability to sleep. That got so bad that at one point
alternative. Ironically in Canada, the Melatonin
she would go through weeks on end with no sleep
was illegal throughout all of this time frame. So she
at all. Looking back at it, I would say that if she did
had to go to the United States and kind of smuggle
actually fall asleep. She would never achieve what
we would call the stage 2, stage 3, stage 4 sleep. It would always be very light. She would wake up
What it would do, was it would provide her
with any noise at all, and generally couldn't sleep
with an ability to actually fall asleep naturally and
for more than five minutes. Usually what's
stay asleep for upwards of four hours at a time, on a
happening is when she is waking up after a few
good day. That was the first major relief she began
minutes, it's a jerking motion of her eyes, kind of
flying open. I'm beginning to think this would be a
This is a woman whose gone from 115 lbs to
seizure. This is a pretty constant theme.
upwards of 250 lbs. At the same time kind of realized that a lot of different foods are causing the
Now in the end, the doctors were basically
headaches to be worse. So, she's gotten to the point
prescribing to her medications to dope her to try to
now where she's taking Melatonin. She's extremely
induce sleep. Again this is not the kind of sleep
careful about what she's eating. She's probably
where we're talking stage 4 sleep, quality sleep, it's
eating the healthiest diet, equal to anyone on the
just basically drugging your eyes shut. Basically
planet and she can't loose any weight. She still has
lots of water retention issues. At least it's kind of
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being managed a bit better with the Melatonin and
took ten drops in the evening. I think she actually.
She got a headache off of that and I believe what
was happening was that she was just detoxing too
basically got to the point where taking a whole
bunch of supplements, she was able to manage the
So what she did is she started taking one
condition so that her headaches and her energy
drop every hour and a half on the second day we
levels were kind of good enough for her to look like
had the product. Then we fairly rapidly moved her
she was sort of healthy to most people. In the end
up to four drops every hour and half. About nine
she's taking probably 15 pills a day. She's taking
times a day she was taking the product. What
things like Melatonin, we've already discussed. She's
basically happened to her is she had a dramatic
taking Betaine. She's taking digestive enzymes with
change in the way she experiences tiredness. She
every meal. She's taking all types of primrose oil
basically went from the chronic condition of feeling
and cod liver oil for her fatty acids. She's taking all
like she has fog, and being tired but not being able
kinds of different herbs that are helping her in
to turn that into sleep, to being somebody who is
various ways, sage, I don't even know the names of
actually tired from the aspect of just feeling fatigue
throughout your body but it's not like a wet blanket
What I'm beginning to notice, as my son is
wrapped around your brain. That translates into
succoring to autism and then I'm following the
Defeat Autism Now protocol for recovering him is
We took her off of zeolite for three days to
her supplements and Lucas's supplements are
see what was happening. What happened is that
identical. They appear to be treating the same
the old type of fatigue returned immediately. For
disorder in the same way. Things like Candida.
three days she goes back to the condition prior. As
Things like improper digestion, improper
soon as we put her back on the liquid zeolite,
hydrochloric acid, improper detoxification systems.
literally within an hour or two she's back to being
Skipping forward, twenty years into this
somebody who just experiences tired differently.
We got her to a point that was basically
happened with this is on two weeks. Actually let
four drops every hour and a half where she actually
me just describe the first day that she started taking
had quite a significant increase in energy. The most
interesting thing is she started loosing weight. Boy
did she start loosing weight rapidly. I'm telling you she never lost weight doing anything. You could
Forrist: And this is less than a month ago or so?
starve the poor woman. You could feed her the
Neal: Yes, this is basically, exactly one month ago.
most scientific diet you want, and we're experienced veterans of the specific carbo diet where we eat no
I got the first box of liquid zeolite and I got it
starches at all that are . no polysaccharide foods
around 6:00 pm. I picked it up from the post office
all, no potatoes, no . Anything that's complex
and we tried three drops on her, just that one
carbohydrates, and she still can't loose weight.
evening. It's probably the most rapid, interesting thing I've ever seen in my life. That night, on three
In two weeks on liquid zeolite, she lots 22 lbs
drops alone, she slept for the first time, for seven
of water. I'm pretty sure it's mostly water retention
hours. She hasn't slept for seven hours in at least
that's gone. She's looking visibly different. She
20-22 years. IT didn't matter what she was taking,
made the comment, two weeks in, that for the first
didn't matter how much Melatonin she would take,
time ever, she could actually see bones in her feet.
she's never slept more than four hours, in 20 years.
From a visual perspective her shoulders look
Now she sleeps 7 hours in the first day.
different, her face is starting to slim down, and her legs look different Her feet definitely were much
Two weeks in, what we discovered was that
small. She's actually showing me clothes, like her
she was sleeping that well, almost every night. I
shirts are loose. These shirts have never been loose
think there was one exception, in the first two weeks
where she didn't sleep at all. That was when she
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definitely was not loosing weight. When we put her
She gets more energy, she starts sleeping properly
back on the zeolite again, it took a few days, but
and she starts dropping 25 lbs of water in three
we got back to the point, that by the third week
weeks, which I think is literally a miracle.
she was actually loosing a pound a day, taking four
I'd like to personally see if this happens with
drops every hour and a half. She is just continuing
other people in the same way. If you give me a
person whose got this similar condition of chronic
Now, of course this prompted some thought,
fatigue, fibromyalgia, water retention, low energy,
obviously where, we had her CREB cycle analyzed
poor sleep, I would like to see if anything starts
prior to all of this treatment with zeolite. The most
interesting thing we saw was she had fairly normal
levels of isocitrate dehydrase which is a key enzyme
doctors in the last three years about my son and
in the CREB cycle. But in the earlier spins of the
also about my mother. What I've come to realize is
cycle and kind of toward the end of this CREB cycle
that here is not a single doctor out there that knows,
there's this enzyme that gets used call alpha
there's not a practicing doctor that knows anything
ketoglutarate, which is quite integral to producing
about the CREB cycle. You actually start quizzing
ATP, but is also in and about where the CREB cycle
them in detail about how the CREB cycle works,
actually produces water. I've come to understand
you just get a blank stare. They do not know the
it's the electron fencer phase, and her alpha
bio chemistry. Even probably the most experienced,
ketoglutarate level was essentially zero or almost
useful doctor I've ever encountered who ordered this
negligible. The doctor who ordered this test who is
test in the first place, to look at her CREB cycle, did
quite good at alternative medicine, he's a standard
not know anything about the electron transfer
GP but he's incredibly knowledgeable about bio
phase. I learned about that listening to medical
chemistry way beyond your average doctor. When
doctors that are involved in research and giving
he looked at this lab result, his eyes literally popped
out of his head looking at her alpha ketoglutarate level that's essentially zero.
What it tells me is that there are some very basic relatively easy to understand medicine that is not
His first comment was, "well I think we know
being applied by any western doctors. Zeolite has
why you have no energy." It never dawned on him
tapped into and is exposing a dramatic change in
or anyone else I've ever spoken to that this may be
positive health. The reason why it's getting no
actually be a contributing factor to why you have
attention at all is because the doctors, as soon as
water retention, and why liquid zeolite would be
they get out of school, they forget their CREB cycle,
causing this water retention to simply evaporate so
they don't understand their bio chemistry and they
quickly. My contention here is, looking here at the
just don't recognize the significance of a miracle. It's
inputs and outputs of the CREB cycle is that there
like tripping over a lump of gold and not realizing .
is. The body clearly has a process of suppressing the
Complaining about your stubbed toe instead of
production of ATP, and ATP itself in high
concentration is quite toxic. There is a feedback loop there to prevent the production of these
enzymes if the body believes there's too much ATP
evidence that her alpha ketoglutarate was very low
and my contention here is that there is probably a
it had a huge diagram on the back which is just one
toxin within her cell that is mimicking ATP and the
view of the CREB cycle. You simply cannot describe
body's feedback loop is basically getting a negative
the CREB cycle in one picture, because that's not the
feedback loop or a false positive and literally
way the CREB cycle works. I kind of figured out
suppressing the production of these enzymes or in
that there was a connection with water and the
some way suppressing the production of ATP.
CREB cycle just by going on to wikipedia and
Therefore suppressing the ability to consume the
looking up citric acid cycle and you know, you draw
water that's actually used into he process of creating
it out in three different views. In one of the views
ATP. It kind of fit with this whole model of her
apparently, and each of them has an input and
each of them has an output. When you look at it at
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that view it becomes very obvious that water is key
got that shot. We only can talk about the fact that
because in the third spin of this citric acid cycle of
he didn't stop crying for a year since the second that
the inputs it's two or three water molecules, and of
the output is ATP. You can't see that on the only
I have a hair sample test that was done by
view that most doctors look at. It's just have the
Doctor's Data which is clearly one of the most
time and wherewithal and desire to think about
reputable labs into he world. It shows seven parts
something in enough detail and look at it at an
per million of mercury in his hair. That, according to
angle that actually shows something that's
the Environmental Protection Agency in the United
States is beyond belief. I mean this boy with seven
parts per million of mercury in his hair should be on
Forrist: Are you considering having your mother do
an operating table, you know, or should be
examined by every doctor in the country to figure out how something so horrible could happen. He
Neal: I would like to but, to be honest with you,
should have insurance companies lined up to help
with one family suffering from autism and a mother
pay to treat this condition. Instead, doctor after
that's been suffering from fibromyalgia for so long,
doctor after doctor looks at this and says, "what lab
we just don't have the money to be . The reality is
did that come from?" "I didn't order this test". "This
that most of the doctors that have met and know
lab is meaningless to me". "These people aren't
my son and know how severely autistic he was in
eve. Who are they?" "Mercury's not even
the past. You go speak to them again and instead
poisonous." I mean I've had doctors tell me Mercury
of recognizing that he's recovered from autism,
is not even poisonous, can you believe that?
what they say is, "oh we had the wrong diagnosis".
Since my mother's condition is one of these
conditions that very few doctors, even acknowledge
exit. Matter of fact, I believe the CDC only actually
Neal: They've said it's not even poisonous, they said
admitted that chronic fatigue syndrome was an
it's not the right type of mercury. I've had a
actual disorder in the last year or two. The reality is
Harvard Trained Pediatrician tell me that "Oh it's
that it doesn't matter what test you have,
Ethel mercury, it's organic so it's ok." This test that
overcoming the inertia of ignorance is not
demonstrates my mother's alpha ketoglutarate
something that's achievable by me. It doesn't
levels will get the same level of this disrespect.
matter what blood test. Of my son after he
got his flu shot, which he was not autistic before he got them, was severely autistic three weeks after he
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